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Rabbi Yehudah Deri's Shiurim on Yorah Deah Shiur 1 - "Meat between
the teeth"
Gemora: Chapter: Kol Habasar (All the meat) 1. Gemora:
108a
2. The Early Authorities (The Rishonim) The Tor
brings two reasons for waiting between meat and cheese for six hours, which
is the time fixed by the Rabbis as being the normal period between a meal and
another meal. 1. The first, Rashi,
is because the taste of the meat is motze
v' moshich (brings out and draws). In the
simple understanding, this means that after the meat is swallowed the taste
of the meat continues for six hours and this is the reason for the takanah (Rabbinical decree) of having to wait for
six hours between meat and cheese. The Yad
Yehudah explains that there are two reasons in Rashi's view and that the presence of
both factors are required. a. Meat brings out fat which
remains in the mouth. 2. The second, the Rambam, is because for six hours we are concerned about the
possibility of meat between the teeth, which means that we assume that after
eating meat, there remains particles of meat between the teeth for six hours.
3. Shita
(System) of the Rambam According to the shita of the Rambam we
have three questions : 1. If meat is found in the teeth
after six hours, is it necessary to rinse one's mouth with liquid and clean
it with food before eating cheese or not? There are two ways of
understanding the rule (din) of the Rambam: a. According to the Tor, the Rambam holds that it is not necessary - for the verse (pasuk) comes to teach us that only for six hours
is meat between the teeth regarded as halachically
"meat" and after this time it is considered as if digested and no
longer forbidden with cheese. b. However, there is another view
in the Rambam, the Prei Chadash, based on the Ba'al Ha-Ator, that even after six hours,
if there is meat between the teeth it is necessary to remove it. The
importance of the factor of six hours in the Rambam,
according to this view, is that up to six hours, we assume that there is meat
between the teeth, even if we do not know for certain that this is so, but
after six hours we assume that there is not - and only if we know, do we
require rinsing and cleaning. 2. If we eat hard cheese, are we
concerned that it will remain between the teeth and therefore we must wait
six hours? According to the Rambam, seemingly not; the Taz
explains that the verse comes to teach us that meat alone remains between the
teeth and that the Rabbis made their regulation not to eat cheese after meat
and not the reverse, even in the case of hard cheese. 3. The third question in the Rambam is whether it is necessary to wait after eating a
cooked dish (tavshil) of meat before eating
cheese. According to most opinions the Rambam would not forbid a tavshil
of cheese immediately after a tavshil of
meat provided that there was no particles of meat in
the tavshil. 4.There is a subsidiary question in the Rambam. If the teeth are thoroughly cleaned of meat
during the period of six hours, would the Rambam
still require waiting time? a. According to the Bach, yes;
maybe he did not clean it properly. 4. Halachic
Differences: I. According to the Tor there are
the following differences between the shita
of Rashi and the Rambam 1. If the meat was just chewed -
for example, by a mother for her child - and then spat out. a. According to Rashi there would be no taste of meat and we would be
satisfied by rinsing and cleaning. 2. If there is meat between the
teeth after six hours. a. According to Rashi, it is necessary to do rinsing and cleaning. 3. So far as hard cheese is
concerned. a. According to most views Rashi would say that there would be a taste of hard
cheese for six hours, and therefore it would be forbidden to eat meat after
hard cheese. 4. Concerning tavshilim
a. According to Rashi, if he eats tavshil,
if it has fat he is required to wait six hours, but if it is a thin mixture
it does not have enough taste to last and rinsing and cleaning would be
enough. II . The Ba'al Ator holds that Rambam agrees
with Rashi - and only comes to add a strictness -
that is that he holds taste and in addition he holds anything between the mouth is also forbidden. 5. It is necessary to understand
how we learn the Gemora according to these views: a. According to Rashi, the Gemora already knows
we have to wait for six hours because of the taste, and asks what about meat
between the teeth after this time. 6. Finally we should mention Rabbenu Tam who holds that it is not necessary to wait six
hours between meat and milk, and it is sufficient to Bench, wash the hands
and rinse and clean the mouth. He learns that when Rav Hisda says it is forbidden to eat cheese after meat that
is without these requirements, and when the Gemora
says it is necessary to wait between sudah to sudah it is talking about clearing off the table and
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